Hold on. WTH? You call this #naturalhair? (Just something to read)

creolebeauty1 wrote:she's textlaxed not natural but if it makes her happy to say she is natural more power to her lol I'm transitioning from relaxed to natural type 4 hair and let me tell you when i look at those weird ends hanging from my nice thick hair i get upset i didn't do this sooner but anyways to each's own

Mandi'sGoneCurly! wrote:Being Natural is a matter of opinion. Some say getting your hair colored is natural. Others don't.
Is it a chemical that alters you hair? Yep.
Is my colored natural? Sure is.
Same goes for texturizers.
It's really up to the person....

Nali1987 wrote:

Mandi'sGoneCurly! wrote:Being Natural is a matter of opinion. Some say getting your hair colored is natural. Others don't.
Is it a chemical that alters you hair? Yep.
Is my colored natural? Sure is.
Same goes for texturizers.
It's really up to the person....

How does the same go for texturizer/texlaxing? When you're coloring your hair you're not altering the texture of your hair..

Mandi'sGoneCurly! wrote:

Nali1987 wrote:

Mandi'sGoneCurly! wrote:Being Natural is a matter of opinion. Some say getting your hair colored is natural. Others don't.
Is it a chemical that alters you hair? Yep.
Is my colored natural? Sure is.
Same goes for texturizers.
It's really up to the person....

How does the same go for texturizer/texlaxing? When you're coloring your hair you're not altering the texture of your hair..

It's still damaging your hair. It still not the way your hair grows out your head. It's not 'natural'.
As I said natural is a matter of opinion.

Nali1987 wrote:

Mandi'sGoneCurly! wrote:

Nali1987 wrote:

Mandi'sGoneCurly! wrote:Being Natural is a matter of opinion. Some say getting your hair colored is natural. Others don't.
Is it a chemical that alters you hair? Yep.
Is my colored natural? Sure is.
Same goes for texturizers.
It's really up to the person....

How does the same go for texturizer/texlaxing? When you're coloring your hair you're not altering the texture of your hair..

It's still damaging your hair. It still not the way your hair grows out your head. It's not 'natural'.
As I said natural is a matter of opinion.

Yes I can understand your reasoning considering coloring and how that can be debated as natural or not. But putting a relaxer or a texturizer in your hair for half the time really can't be considered having natural hair, it's a whole different thing than coloring. Most, well all texlaxed heads I know online don't consider themselves natural either.

And I know some that do and looking at their hair you really can't tell the difference. What get's me is that in the 'natural hair community' there is alot of snobbery (yes I just made that up ).
I think instead of pointing fingers and dissecting what is or isn't natural, we should be encouraging each other. I myself have gotten texturizers. Many people don't like them or consider them not 'natural' but looking at my pictures from then till now, my hair looks no different. It wasn't straight, it made just made my hair easier to manage and cut down my detangling time. When I wanted to, I could wear my hair in Twists, Twist Outs, and any other natural hairstyle I pleased. And because of that I really could have benefited from a website like this. I have encountered MUCH negativity regarding heat usage, texturizers and color on other sites. To me, it's not necessary. What goes on in someone else's head is not my business. If I saw someone with a full head of relaxed hair, wore it in two strand twist one day and called it 'natural', Then their hair is 'natural' to them. There is no reason to call them out or denounce it. Just my opinion.

psbest wrote:lol ... sooo true... I love the make-up example lol

psbest wrote:Coloring covers your color... it doesn't change the texture...make-up hides your natural skin, black heads and so on ... I don't see where you are coming from... plus I never said I was pure natural beauty. I color my hair to cover my grey hair... not change the texture of my hair. "Hair color is used to dye your hair whichever color you choose, and hair relaxers are used to help straighten your hair." ... The more I talk about it the more I see what you are talking about... you are more on the all natural side as in using all natural products and being pure natural... I am just referring to the basic natural as in no relaxers.

This was something I found:
"Function
Semi-permanent hair color applies a coat of color over your natural color. Unlike permanent hair color, it does not actually alter the chemical makeup of your hair. In a similar manner, semi-permanent relaxers temporarily loosen the structures in your hair that make it curly. However they do not break these bonds permanently as do permanent hair relaxers. Over time, both of these products wear off and your hair will return to its natural texture and color.


I never said I was pure natural, basically going natural all the way with natural products, no make-up and wearing my natural color. the example stated above was to show a connection. Being pure natural is truly being yourself and accepting everything about you and forcing ourselves not to not please others but I think we are going beyond the scope here because this subject could take us very, very far. That's like saying being our natural selves is not shaving or something simple as that. Point being, natural is not relaxing. you rarely see tips for transitioning about not coloring. The main key is cutting off all relaxed hair.

"Afro-textured hair or Black hair, are terms used to refer to the typical texture of Black African hair that has not been altered by hot combs, flat irons, or chemicals (by perming, relaxing, or straightening)"