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Post by Nali1987 23rd February 2011, 4:52 pm

Sigh. I admit it. I read celebrity gossip. Razz Anyways I just read that Lindsay might think about going to trial. (I've always found the jury system in the US so fascinating, since we have bench trials in a lot of European countries.) My question is, if you were on that jury, would you find her guilty. I'm torn. I mean is she really that stupid and/or insane that she'd steal while on probation? Or was it more her thinking that as a celebrity, she was getting special treatment from the store? I mean celebrities and their stylists borrow stuff from stores all the time. So back to my original question.. What would you find her if you were selected for jury duty?
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Post by Aunt_Lola 23rd February 2011, 5:53 pm

I'd have to see the evidence.

Right now I'm just going on tabloids and hearsay.

Hopefully in court the lawyers for both sides will have more evidence to present.

Sorry, I'm no help. Laughing

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Post by Nali1987 23rd February 2011, 6:20 pm

Lol, oh no problem. I was just wondering. I have a weak point for Lindsay since Parent Trap, lol.
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Post by Aunt_Lola 23rd February 2011, 6:55 pm

Am I the only one who thinks The Parent Trap was her best work?
Mean Girls was pretty good too.

Seems like she got lost after that. Sad


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Post by Mangos&Bananas 23rd February 2011, 7:57 pm

OMG I thought I was the only one who liked her. Lol. Parent trap was my movie! She was better as a red head. *sigh. Not guilty. If she wanted it she would have bought it. She most likely thought she was getting special treatment from the store like celebs always do. I mean what would really be her MOTIVE to steal it? In broad day light. With her face shining in the managers face. I mean..really?Idk. I would hope not.but I don't rule it out..lol.
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Post by Nali1987 23rd February 2011, 8:03 pm

Mangos&Bananas wrote:OMG I thought I was the only one who liked her. Lol. Parent trap was my movie! She was better as a red head. *sigh. Not guilty. If she wanted it she would have bought it. She most likely thought she was getting special treatment from the store like celebs always do. I mean what would really be her MOTIVE to steal it? In broad day light. With her face shining in the managers face. I mean..really?Idk. I would hope not.but I don't rule it out..lol.

Yess. Lol. I think she's a good actress! And she should definitely go back to being a red head! I know right, she has no motive! People are always giving celebrities free stuff. I really think it was a misunderstanding. After going through all her legal problems, finally getting clean, I really can't imagine someone like her stealing a simple $2000 necklace! Or she has issues. =/

She has the WORST luck though. Just when it seems things are finally going right, something happens. Smh.
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Post by sydnisd183 23rd February 2011, 8:24 pm

I've fought with a lot of the same demons that she has (i'm currently working on 9 years sober) so I can understand a lot of that addict behavior....no real reason for taking those items, just liking that rush that comes with being a "bad girl" and getting away with it. Her actions indicate she needs serious rehabilitation, and she needs to sit down and work through those issues that keep her in that mental state. No one can make her....she has to be ready. Ready to surrender, ready to acknowledge that her way is not working and be open-minded to trying something different.

She's a celeb, so her people will probably keep co-signing her ish and she will continue on down the line to ruin, as it only gets worse. Hopefully she will have that moment of clarity that draws her into the solution. I hate to see anyone suffering from active addiction, as I know that hell very well.

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Post by Mangos&Bananas 23rd February 2011, 8:25 pm

@Nali Girl I know huh? Lol.the media does that the people. I actually think they like her. Its like they're obsessed or something. Lol. They like her so much that they hate her. Like how they went IN on her for wearing that dress to court. What?! Get a grip. They want her to fall apart and start making apologies and she wont. Lol. Good for her.
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Post by fuzzypuff 24th February 2011, 11:15 am

Would I find Lindsey guilty? Short answer, yes.

I do, however, believe she has a serious problem. And I wish she would stay in rehab LONGER so she can get thorough help. AND I wish her parents would enter some type of parent course as well.

I like celeb gossip too Very Happy
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Post by Music8192 24th February 2011, 12:19 pm

Yes yes lol.. she's guilty! She's been off the hook so many times. It's unfortunate that she had to take a turn for the worst but hopefully she can come back. I feel that some time in prison will open her eyes but.. these celebs always seem to get off some how some way. I would find her guilty. At the same time, she needs HELP.
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Post by BeautifullyFree 24th February 2011, 12:23 pm

Yes i'd send her to jail...i mean given the evidence is there which it seems to be...personally i'm tired of seeing her get off so easily yet someone like T.I gets sent RIGHT back to jail...she's violated probation, she has drug issues, it just seems to me that she always gets off the hook an i'm not feeling that..i'd send her to jail NOT just for nothing, but because of all that she's done its time for her behind to learn a hard lesson! She brings thing onherself an needs to know that she is not above the law.
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Post by BajanPrincess82 24th February 2011, 1:53 pm

sydnisd183 wrote:I've fought with a lot of the same demons that she has (i'm currently working on 9 years sober) so I can understand a lot of that addict behavior....no real reason for taking those items, just liking that rush that comes with being a "bad girl" and getting away with it. Her actions indicate she needs serious rehabilitation, and she needs to sit down and work through those issues that keep her in that mental state. No one can make her....she has to be ready. Ready to surrender, ready to acknowledge that her way is not working and be open-minded to trying something different.

She's a celeb, so her people will probably keep co-signing her ish and she will continue on down the line to ruin, as it only gets worse. Hopefully she will have that moment of clarity that draws her into the solution. I hate to see anyone suffering from active addiction, as I know that hell very well.

Peace
Congratulations on your 9 years of sobriety! I hope and pray that you will stick with and I am so glad that you've been delivered. My ex-fiance was/is a substance abuse counselor (by now I think he has about 20 yrs clean) so I learned a lot about addiction from him. Its an everyday struggle and I commend you for staying in the fight!
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Post by Mangos&Bananas 24th February 2011, 1:55 pm

I don't think they treat her special a all. She has problems with alcohol abuse that needs rehabilitation. T.I on the other hand has felony charges; weapon possesion, drugs, ect. If she's acting out its because she is an addict, not because she is a star. Sometimes when these judges go out of their way to treat these celebs like they are normal people..they end up treating them like the are less than normal people,just to make a point. But if she is guilty, she should go to jail.
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Post by Nali1987 24th February 2011, 2:28 pm

BeautifullyFree wrote:Yes i'd send her to jail...i mean given the evidence is there which it seems to be...personally i'm tired of seeing her get off so easily yet someone like T.I gets sent RIGHT back to jail...she's violated probation, she has drug issues, it just seems to me that she always gets off the hook an i'm not feeling that..i'd send her to jail NOT just for nothing, but because of all that she's done its time for her behind to learn a hard lesson! She brings thing onherself an needs to know that she is not above the law.

I do agree with you, if she stole the necklace then she should go to jail for violating her probation. I don't think she's gotten off easily though. I mean the original arrest was for a DUI in 2008. T.I had two prior drug and weapon related arrest and then got a felony for posession of machines guns, drugs, etc. So he had three prior felony sentences and then violated his probation. I mean, him going back to jail was the only option.

I do think she gets treated more harshly than others though. I mean look at Charlie Sheen. Look at Paris Hilton. She had drugs in her possesion and didn't spend a day in jail. Both have prior arrests. Someone else wouldn't have spend a day in jail either, prisons are full. Everyone should be punished the same way. No one should be made an example off.
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Post by BeautifullyFree 24th February 2011, 2:31 pm

I do think she has issues with alcoholism/drugs etc. however i just think they've been too lenient with her for far too long...i mean yes T.I's issues were a lot more serious than hers, HOWEVER i can't help but to feel like as soon as we do something then its right off to jail no questions asked (T.I had that coming granted) but when some of these pop singer/actresses/actors are out of control its like "oh give them probation" its a slap on the wrist..my theory is even if its due to drugs or alcohol at some point they need to be punished just like anyone else would they shouldn't keep getting over because they may have some form of addiction ...i mean just my opinion ya know..it just doesnt seem fair, its like enough is enough.
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Post by Nali1987 24th February 2011, 2:43 pm

I understand but with prisons being as full as they are and the lesser sentences usually given out for DUI's, I don't even think your average joe would spend any time in prison. Probation, community, service, etc. When Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan got sent to jail the judge actaully demaned that they're not to be released, when you're average joe would've probably gotten out due to overcrowding. I think everybody's getting lesser punishment for minor crimes these days, not only celebrities.

Actually talking about T.I. He got easy. I mean who ever heard of having two prior felonies and only getting a year in jail for a third one? I mean don't most states have a Three Strikes Law? So I actually think he kind of got off easy with his sentencing lol.
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Post by Nali1987 24th February 2011, 2:48 pm

sydnisd183 wrote:I've fought with a lot of the same demons that she has (i'm currently working on 9 years sober) so I can understand a lot of that addict behavior....no real reason for taking those items, just liking that rush that comes with being a "bad girl" and getting away with it. Her actions indicate she needs serious rehabilitation, and she needs to sit down and work through those issues that keep her in that mental state. No one can make her....she has to be ready. Ready to surrender, ready to acknowledge that her way is not working and be open-minded to trying something different.

She's a celeb, so her people will probably keep co-signing her ish and she will continue on down the line to ruin, as it only gets worse. Hopefully she will have that moment of clarity that draws her into the solution. I hate to see anyone suffering from active addiction, as I know that hell very well.

Peace

Congrats (is that the right word/sentiment Razz ) on your sobriety! You make a good point. I actually think that rehab is more beneficial for her than jail. But then again, she just got out of rehab. confused
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