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Post by ChakaKhanian on 21st December 2010, 7:46 pm

I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!
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Post by Keisha on 21st December 2010, 8:44 pm

just stopping in to say hello... I recently subscribed to your YT channel. You have gorgeous hair.
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 22nd December 2010, 2:36 am

Keisha wrote:just stopping in to say hello... I recently subscribed to your YT channel. You have gorgeous hair.

Thanks Keisha!
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Post by Thetruthisoutthere on 23rd December 2010, 6:19 pm

ChakaKhanian wrote:I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!

Hi ChakaKhanian,

Can you provide some advice on preventing mid strand splits? Your videos are inspirational!

I have 4b/c TIGHTLY KINKY curls type, and my regimen has brought me to another possible "big chop".

Is there anything I can do to salvage it? How can I prevent it from happening again. Sad

Thanks for any advice you have!
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Post by Ambitious_Tiff on 23rd December 2010, 9:06 pm

Hello there! I see you said that you transitioned and bc'ed, how did you know you were making the best decision to start your journey? I originally said I wanted to transition until I graduate from nursing school now I am thinking bc... How do I know which will be my better option? confused
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 24th December 2010, 12:04 am

Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!

Hi ChakaKhanian,

Can you provide some advice on preventing mid strand splits? Your videos are inspirational!

I have 4b/c TIGHTLY KINKY curls type, and my regimen has brought me to another possible "big chop".

Is there anything I can do to salvage it? How can I prevent it from happening again. Sad

Thanks for any advice you have!

How often are you handling your hair?

When/how do you detangle?

What styles are you doing and how often do you leave that style on your hair?

What type of 'hair tools' do you use, ie, bobby pins, hair bands, etc?
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 24th December 2010, 12:28 am

Ambitious_Tiff wrote:Hello there! I see you said that you transitioned and bc'ed, how did you know you were making the best decision to start your journey? I originally said I wanted to transition until I graduate from nursing school now I am thinking bc... How do I know which will be my better option? confused

Because I love twas, but I only had a love affair with them on other people. I didn't think I would 'look right' with it especially since I had long hair since the age of 3. My long hair became a crutch for me.

The second time I transitioned, I was literally sick of my hair. Sick of the relaxed ends and I just started chopping.

I tend to do (some) things on a whim. If I think about them, this leads me to asking others for their advice, which leads me to rethinking what I originally thought and I don't do them.

I wish I could tell you which would be your better option. Honestly, I would hate for you to cut your hair only to 'hide it' with wigs and weaves. At the same time, transitioning would provide you that option of possibly relaxing if you get frustrated.

I can tell you this, though. Transitioning can give you a false since of your true length. Once you finally cut those relaxed ends off, you will be surprised to see how much cutting you will still have to do.

I guess you have to ask yourself 'why am I transitioning for such and such time?'
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Post by Ambitious_Tiff on 25th December 2010, 1:52 am

ChakaKhanian wrote:
Ambitious_Tiff wrote:Hello there! I see you said that you transitioned and bc'ed, how did you know you were making the best decision to start your journey? I originally said I wanted to transition until I graduate from nursing school now I am thinking bc... How do I know which will be my better option? confused

Because I love twas, but I only had a love affair with them on other people. I didn't think I would 'look right' with it especially since I had long hair since the age of 3. My long hair became a crutch for me.

The second time I transitioned, I was literally sick of my hair. Sick of the relaxed ends and I just started chopping.

I tend to do (some) things on a whim. If I think about them, this leads me to asking others for their advice, which leads me to rethinking what I originally thought and I don't do them.

I wish I could tell you which would be your better option. Honestly, I would hate for you to cut your hair only to 'hide it' with wigs and weaves. At the same time, transitioning would provide you that option of possibly relaxing if you get frustrated.

I can tell you this, though. Transitioning can give you a false since of your true length. Once you finally cut those relaxed ends off, you will be surprised to see how much cutting you will still have to do.

I guess you have to ask yourself 'why am I transitioning for such and such time?'

What exactly does that mean...? I guess I decided to transition for so long b/c I am afraid to cut my hair. I have a serious emotional attachment to it and I even cry when I get trims. This is such a difficult decision b/c I can't rationalize my way thru it to the "right" answer...
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 25th December 2010, 3:34 am

Ambitious_Tiff wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:
Ambitious_Tiff wrote:Hello there! I see you said that you transitioned and bc'ed, how did you know you were making the best decision to start your journey? I originally said I wanted to transition until I graduate from nursing school now I am thinking bc... How do I know which will be my better option? confused

Because I love twas, but I only had a love affair with them on other people. I didn't think I would 'look right' with it especially since I had long hair since the age of 3. My long hair became a crutch for me.

The second time I transitioned, I was literally sick of my hair. Sick of the relaxed ends and I just started chopping.

I tend to do (some) things on a whim. If I think about them, this leads me to asking others for their advice, which leads me to rethinking what I originally thought and I don't do them.

I wish I could tell you which would be your better option. Honestly, I would hate for you to cut your hair only to 'hide it' with wigs and weaves. At the same time, transitioning would provide you that option of possibly relaxing if you get frustrated.

I can tell you this, though. Transitioning can give you a false since of your true length. Once you finally cut those relaxed ends off, you will be surprised to see how much cutting you will still have to do.

I guess you have to ask yourself 'why am I transitioning for such and such time?'

What exactly does that mean...? I guess I decided to transition for so long b/c I am afraid to cut my hair. I have a serious emotional attachment to it and I even cry when I get trims. This is such a difficult decision b/c I can't rationalize my way thru it to the "right" answer...

It means that your newgrowth appears longer because the relaxed ends add some amount of weight to the hair. When one cuts off the relaxed ends to what seems to be the demarcation line, it will still look straight. Some women termed this 'scab hair.'
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Post by Ambitious_Tiff on 25th December 2010, 3:51 am

So that's what scab hair is!! Ok I see what you are saying now... Thank you so much for clearing that up! That's definitely something further for me to consider.
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Post by naturally.yours on 25th December 2010, 9:01 pm

Hello!

What would you suggest for a heat-trained natural trying to go completely natural? My hair has been heat trained for five years; during my entire transition period. Should I transition again, to get my hair used to being in it's natural state or should I BC and start fresh?
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Post by Madeaj on 25th December 2010, 9:31 pm

Is your hair heat damaged? Do you want to cut it?

If not I would just go on from where it is. Maybe do some cassia/amla treatments to bring back the curl. Actually it might be a good idea to do that and some deep conditioning treatments. Give it a couple of months of DT, protective styles, and TLC. After a couple of months you can still DC if you feel you need to.
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 26th December 2010, 1:44 am

naturally.yours wrote:Hello!

What would you suggest for a heat-trained natural trying to go completely natural? My hair has been heat trained for five years; during my entire transition period. Should I transition again, to get my hair used to being in it's natural state or should I BC and start fresh?

I can honestly say that it would be beneficial to start over again because your hair's going to be thicker at the roots than the ends since it's heat trained.
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Post by yacoomba on 26th December 2010, 2:11 am

can tell you this, though. Transitioning can give you a false since of your true length. Once you finally cut those relaxed ends off, you will be surprised to see how much cutting you will still have to do.
I read your response to Tiff regarding this and I have a f/u question please- at my line of demarcation it feels rough and I'm going into my 11th month of transition. When I saw rough (puffy like) is this scab hair and will this need to be eventually cut off or can this be smoothed out somehow. I don't use heat on my hair if at all rarely to include blowdrying (last blowdry and flatiron was June 2010). Just trying to figure out why at the line I have this rough spot (patches all over). TIA
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 26th December 2010, 3:32 am

yacoomba wrote: can tell you this, though. Transitioning can give you a false since of your true length. Once you finally cut those relaxed ends off, you will be surprised to see how much cutting you will still have to do.
I read your response to Tiff regarding this and I have a f/u question please- at my line of demarcation it feels rough and I'm going into my 11th month of transition. When I saw rough (puffy like) is this scab hair and will this need to be eventually cut off or can this be smoothed out somehow. I don't use heat on my hair if at all rarely to include blowdrying (last blowdry and flatiron was June 2010). Just trying to figure out why at the line I have this rough spot (patches all over). TIA

That's sounds like scab hair. Take a look at this website, it's very informative.

http://growblackhair.net/blog/scab-hair-it-is-real
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Post by Ambitious_Tiff on 26th December 2010, 4:05 am

Thanx for sharing that link. Scab hair just sounds scary. I can't believe pems can actually damage hair you haven't even grown yet! affraid Once you bc, how long does it take to figure out your, curl pattern or see it really develope? Does everyone's hair curl or do some people just kinda have like a more afro-y thing going on...? Idk, I've been trying to look at my parents hair and figure out what mine will look like but my mom's hair is kinds fine and relaxed now and my dad just has a fade. The only natural hair I have seen on either of them was a fro...
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Post by yacoomba on 26th December 2010, 8:53 am

ChakaKhanian wrote:
yacoomba wrote: can tell you this, though. Transitioning can give you a false since of your true length. Once you finally cut those relaxed ends off, you will be surprised to see how much cutting you will still have to do.
I read your response to Tiff regarding this and I have a f/u question please- at my line of demarcation it feels rough and I'm going into my 11th month of transition. When I saw rough (puffy like) is this scab hair and will this need to be eventually cut off or can this be smoothed out somehow. I don't use heat on my hair if at all rarely to include blowdrying (last blowdry and flatiron was June 2010). Just trying to figure out why at the line I have this rough spot (patches all over). TIA

That's sounds like scab hair. Take a look at this website, it's very informative.

http://growblackhair.net/blog/scab-hair-it-is-real
Wow-thank you-this describes what I have going on to the "T" looks like I will eventually have to cut it and is going to set me back with my transitional goals. Makes sense no matter how moisturized I've been keeping my hair and the line and its still been rough (discouraging but glad I know what I'm dealing with and it will have to go). I think its up to an inch in some spots. Thanks again for your help and the article!
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Post by Thetruthisoutthere on 26th December 2010, 7:25 pm

ChakaKhanian wrote:
Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!

Hi ChakaKhanian,

Can you provide some advice on preventing mid strand splits? Your videos are inspirational!

I have 4b/c TIGHTLY KINKY curls type, and my regimen has brought me to another possible "big chop".

Is there anything I can do to salvage it? How can I prevent it from happening again. Sad

Thanks for any advice you have!

How often are you handling your hair?

When/how do you detangle?

What styles are you doing and how often do you leave that style on your hair?

What type of 'hair tools' do you use, ie, bobby pins, hair bands, etc?


How often are you handling your hair?
I must admit - I have have been fighting "hand in 'fro disease".
I wash/co-wash 1-2 times weekly.
Sunday night, I two strand twist with perm rods on the crown.
Monday morning I untwist and lift my roots with a plastic pick.
Monday & Tuesday evening I pineapple the crown for height.
I may wash/cowash again Wednesday.


When/how do you detangle?
I shower detangle with conditioner.
I can't comb my hair when dry!


What styles are you doing and how often do you leave that style on your hair?
Two strand twist-outs only. I retwist after I shampoo. I pineapple the crown at night. I may wear the style for a week if I don't wash/co-wash it midweek.

What type of 'hair tools' do you use, ie, bobby pins, hair bands, etc?
I have a shower comb for conditioner detangling,
A bone comb for fine detangling
I pin my coiled twists with bobby pins on the sides and back
I curl my coiled twists on perm rods on the crown.


Another poster recommended I stop using my denman - I had been using my modified denman for detangling prior to twisting.

Thank you!

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Post by ChakaKhanian on 27th December 2010, 2:09 am

Ambitious_Tiff wrote:Thanx for sharing that link. Scab hair just sounds scary. I can't believe pems can actually damage hair you haven't even grown yet! affraid Once you bc, how long does it take to figure out your, curl pattern or see it really develope? Does everyone's hair curl or do some people just kinda have like a more afro-y thing going on...? Idk, I've been trying to look at my parents hair and figure out what mine will look like but my mom's hair is kinds fine and relaxed now and my dad just has a fade. The only natural hair I have seen on either of them was a fro...


Honestly, I know what that article said about scab hair but I believe that it is the hair right next to the demarcation line of relaxed hair and newgrowth. This article doesn't support what I believe, but it gives a bit more scientific detail about the scab hair phenomenon. Read this: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/3016850/scab_hair_new_growth_hair_texture_changes.html?cat=69

The only way one will know their natural hair will look is when they go natural completely. I can't exactly say how long it will take to figure out one's true texture because everyone's hair is different. I know for me, as my hair gets longer, my texture tends to straighten.
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 27th December 2010, 2:51 am

Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:
Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!

Hi ChakaKhanian,

Can you provide some advice on preventing mid strand splits? Your videos are inspirational!

I have 4b/c TIGHTLY KINKY curls type, and my regimen has brought me to another possible "big chop".

Is there anything I can do to salvage it? How can I prevent it from happening again. Sad

Thanks for any advice you have!

How often are you handling your hair?

When/how do you detangle?

What styles are you doing and how often do you leave that style on your hair?

What type of 'hair tools' do you use, ie, bobby pins, hair bands, etc?


How often are you handling your hair?
I must admit - I have have been fighting "hand in 'fro disease".
I wash/co-wash 1-2 times weekly.
Sunday night, I two strand twist with perm rods on the crown.
Monday morning I untwist and lift my roots with a plastic pick.
Monday & Tuesday evening I pineapple the crown for height.
I may wash/cowash again Wednesday.


When/how do you detangle?
I shower detangle with conditioner.
I can't comb my hair when dry!


What styles are you doing and how often do you leave that style on your hair?
Two strand twist-outs only. I retwist after I shampoo. I pineapple the crown at night. I may wear the style for a week if I don't wash/co-wash it midweek.

What type of 'hair tools' do you use, ie, bobby pins, hair bands, etc?
I have a shower comb for conditioner detangling,
A bone comb for fine detangling
I pin my coiled twists with bobby pins on the sides and back
I curl my coiled twists on perm rods on the crown.


Another poster recommended I stop using my denman - I had been using my modified denman for detangling prior to twisting.

Thank you!


Those perm rods- leave them alone right now even if you are using the roller paper. Sleeping with those type of rollers can definitely cause some damage.

That plastic pick- is it seamless?

Bobby pins, especially the closed ones can damage your hair,too. I wouldn't use them on the sides since you are having problems with mid strand splits. You can pin your hair up in the back if you use the open bobby pins, but there's a technique to keeping them in place, like a slide and tuck method.
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Post by Thetruthisoutthere on 27th December 2010, 11:35 am

Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!

Those perm rods- leave them alone right now even if you are using the roller paper. Sleeping with those type of rollers can definitely cause some damage.

That plastic pick- is it seamless?

Bobby pins, especially the closed ones can damage your hair,too. I wouldn't use them on the sides since you are having problems with mid strand splits. You can pin your hair up in the back if you use the open bobby pins, but there's a technique to keeping them in place, like a slide and tuck method.

Thank you - the pick is seamless (a Goody type). I suspected the bobby pins and will take your advice and replace them with hairpins.

Is there any way to salvage the midstrand splits? affraid I tried an aphogee tx last week, and purchased HE-LTR and Aussie 3MM yesterday.


Thank you!


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Post by Thetruthisoutthere on 27th December 2010, 1:23 pm

p.s. can you provide more info on the "slide and tuck" method?

Thanks!
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 28th December 2010, 2:10 pm

Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
Thetruthisoutthere wrote:
ChakaKhanian wrote:I did both. The first time I went natural, I transitioned for 1 year and 4 months. The second time I went natural, I only transitioned for 5 months. I big chopped March 09 and have been completely natural for over a year now. Just let me know!

Those perm rods- leave them alone right now even if you are using the roller paper. Sleeping with those type of rollers can definitely cause some damage.

That plastic pick- is it seamless?

Bobby pins, especially the closed ones can damage your hair,too. I wouldn't use them on the sides since you are having problems with mid strand splits. You can pin your hair up in the back if you use the open bobby pins, but there's a technique to keeping them in place, like a slide and tuck method.

Thank you - the pick is seamless (a Goody type). I suspected the bobby pins and will take your advice and replace them with hairpins.

Is there any way to salvage the midstrand splits? affraid I tried an aphogee tx last week, and purchased HE-LTR and Aussie 3MM yesterday.


Thank you!

I think the only way to salvage a split is to cut it or let it split off on its own. Do you have a lot of them?
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Post by ChakaKhanian on 28th December 2010, 2:12 pm

Thetruthisoutthere wrote:p.s. can you provide more info on the "slide and tuck" method?

Thanks!

I will make a short vid of the method just for you when I get home today. Wink I have box braids in my hair at the moment, so I will take one section and demonstrate the technique to you.
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Post by Thetruthisoutthere on 30th December 2010, 1:34 pm

I saw the box braid tutorial - great job!
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