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Post by LaToya28 on 26th March 2010, 2:22 am

I have been seeing this term a lot lately, but I really have no idea what it is or what it looks like. Can someone please explain it for us new naturals? Thanks!

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Re: Scab hair

Post by envizionj on 26th March 2010, 2:34 am

Here is what I found when I Googled the term ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

"Scab hair is the rough texture of hair that you may experience while transitioning (or on your freshly big chopped hair). If you’re transitioning right now and still roughly under 3-4 months, you likely have scab hair.
You know you have scab hair if your hair fails to: 1) retain moisture, 2) absorb products (i.e., the leave-in conditioner just sits on your strands) or 3) hold a style longer than 24 hours."


http://naturallyfamous.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/scab-hair/

"Hey!! Scab hair is apparently the hair that is still damaged by chemical processing (even if you have stopped relaxing, due to damage to the scalp and hair follicle). It's usually drier, frizzier, fuzzier, and less defined. For instance, if you have a head full of coils, but one spot is troublesome and won't get moisturized, some would consider that scab hair. Some say scab hair is a myth, some say that it takes a year for your hair to start growing out healthy after relaxers."
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=99091 [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]


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Re: Scab hair

Post by LaToya28 on 26th March 2010, 2:53 am

I thought this article made some good points, but it contradicts what you posted envizionj.

Many believe that when we undergo the BC, when the scab hair emerges from the scalp and becomes new-growth, we're left with a false impression of our actual texture. We may be led to believe that this softer, straighter hair is a true representation of our hair in its natural state. Overtime, hair that is just below the scalp that has not been impacted by chemicals will emerge as the new, new-growth and its texture will be vastly different from the previous set of chemically altered or "scab" hair.


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Re: Scab hair

Post by envizionj on 26th March 2010, 3:00 am

I've been natural since 2002 and don't recall "Scab Hair".

As I said, I Googled the term and the text above was part of the results. I guess everyone has their own interpretation of "Scab Hair" so happy researching.
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Re: Scab hair

Post by LaToya28 on 26th March 2010, 8:50 am

Thanks! Hopefully some other ladies can weigh in on this.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by BrownSkinDiva on 26th March 2010, 10:07 am

wow, I never really knew what scab hair was...thanks for the info ladies!!!

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Re: Scab hair

Post by AdriEm on 26th March 2010, 12:39 pm

Wow. I always thought scab hair was when you got a relaxer burn and then the hair got stuck in the resulting scab; I had a friend who had her hair burnt in the form of a ponytail. It was convenient (?) but a little unfortunate....

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Poundcake921 on 26th March 2010, 1:26 pm

I am newly natural myself...6 weeks in and I never bought into the scab hair terminology but it's true I have to admit...I have a patch of hair on the left side of my hair in the front that is very frizzy, dry, and straight....I have to seriously manipulate the curls when I apply products to it....I call the patch "stepchild'.....lol! I do see a teeny bit of my coils starting to come in at the root but it is far from being defined like my other curls...

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Lynnieluve on 26th March 2010, 2:26 pm

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Re: Scab hair

Post by swoodward on 27th March 2010, 12:14 am

I can't imagine how your hair follicles are NOT traumatized by sodium, calcium and lithium hydroxide. If the hair follicles are in the skin and the skin gets touched and irritated by the relaxer, I think your follicles are traumatized as well and the hair inside the follicle must also be damaged. It makes sense to me that it would take awhile for the follicles to recover and produce undamaged hair - especially if you react badly to relaxers (as I did) and kept getting them for years anyway (also as I did). I definitely had scab hair and I think it may be the reason so many woman run back to relaxers after they see their new growth because they think that the rough, dry, porous hair is their hair texture - which it is not.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by LaToya28 on 27th March 2010, 12:18 pm

Thanks for your input swoodward, that does make sense. I have a sensitive scalp so relaxers almost always did me bad. My hair is dry and kind of porous since my bc so maybe I'm dealing with scab hair...

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Peachtree on 27th March 2010, 7:05 pm

swoodward wrote:I can't imagine how your hair follicles are NOT traumatized by sodium, calcium and lithium hydroxide. If the hair follicles are in the skin and the skin gets touched and irritated by the relaxer, I think your follicles are traumatized as well and the hair inside the follicle must also be damaged. It makes sense to me that it would take awhile for the follicles to recover and produce undamaged hair - especially if you react badly to relaxers (as I did) and kept getting them for years anyway (also as I did). I definitely had scab hair and I think it may be the reason so many woman run back to relaxers after they see their new growth because they think that the rough, dry, porous hair is their hair texture - which it is not.

My thoughts exactly!

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Re: Scab hair

Post by lexi1 on 6th April 2010, 8:55 am

swoodward wrote:I can't imagine how your hair follicles are NOT traumatized by sodium, calcium and lithium hydroxide. If the hair follicles are in the skin and the skin gets touched and irritated by the relaxer, I think your follicles are traumatized as well and the hair inside the follicle must also be damaged. It makes sense to me that it would take awhile for the follicles to recover and produce undamaged hair - especially if you react badly to relaxers (as I did) and kept getting them for years anyway (also as I did). I definitely had scab hair and I think it may be the reason so many woman run back to relaxers after they see their new growth because they think that the rough, dry, porous hair is their hair texture - which it is not.

I have transitioned 3 or 4 times. This is VERY true!!!! There is such a thing as "scab" hair.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by LaFemmeRouge on 6th April 2010, 3:03 pm

So, I am curious...for the newly naturals, what do you do with the scab hair? If you have BC'd to get rid of your relaxed ends, unless you have been transitioning for more than 3 months, then the new growth is the scab hair, right? And if that hair is of a different texture than one's true texture, then do you get another chop to get rid of the scab hair? Just curious....

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Re: Scab hair

Post by LaToya28 on 6th April 2010, 4:13 pm

I'm wondering the same thing. I bc'd a month ago and I don't want to have to cut my hair again. I guess I'll just see what happens as it grows out.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by swoodward on 6th April 2010, 10:53 pm

Same here, I can feel the difference on my ends. Most of the scab hair was cut off during the BC but I still have about a quarter inch left and wasn't ready to cut again. I am trying a lot of extra shea but it bothers me.

On the other hand feeling the the difference between the last of the old times and the beginning of the new times is pretty satisfying.

I have to assume that the ends will fray sooner than later and am leaning towards cutting them off.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by thicktjt88 on 8th April 2010, 3:05 am

I have been wondering about this scab hair thing. I have patches of hair in the back and on the top of my head that are kinda wavy, and nothing like the rest of my hair. It barely holds twist. The thing is I stopped relaxing in April of 2008. I transitioned for 20 months and then big chopped Dec. 2009. A few days later I ended up cutting off the majority of that growth due to heat damage. So, could this be scab hair, or my true texture?

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Re: Scab hair

Post by hnysmax on 8th April 2010, 12:07 pm

Ditto thicktjt88. My last relaxer was in 2007 and the front of my hair is pretty fuzzy compared to other parts of my hair. Could this still be scab hair all of these years later, or is it a lack of moisture (or something else)?

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Pinkpearls on 8th April 2010, 12:23 pm

swoodward wrote:I can't imagine how your hair follicles are NOT traumatized by sodium, calcium and lithium hydroxide. If the hair follicles are in the skin and the skin gets touched and irritated by the relaxer, I think your follicles are traumatized as well and the hair inside the follicle must also be damaged. It makes sense to me that it would take awhile for the follicles to recover and produce undamaged hair - especially if you react badly to relaxers (as I did) and kept getting them for years anyway (also as I did). I definitely had scab hair and I think it may be the reason so many woman run back to relaxers after they see their new growth because they think that the rough, dry, porous hair is their hair texture - which it is not.

True! I always concentrated on getting my hairline straight. For the past five years, my husband did my relaxers and did not apply too much relaxer to the inside of my hair. However, when he finished his part of the relaxer, I would always smooth the hairline a while longer...guess I did more damage than good.

I have been transitioning for 5 months. The hair around my hairline, and a few places near the side, is rough, dry and porous. The remainder of my new growth is wavy and the relaxed hair is straight. I recently had a consultation at Uncle Funky's Daughter's Salon. The stylist took a look-see at my hair and concluded that the dry, porous hair is not my true texture. She didn't give it a term "scab hair," but I guess that's what it is. Now, I'm dealing with three textures and I'm learning that I have to treat them all differently.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Tierra on 10th April 2010, 1:45 am

how long does it take for scab hair to go away??? grow out???scratch scratch because i think i may have it

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Re: Scab hair

Post by swoodward on 10th April 2010, 2:18 am

I am not sure how long it takes for the scalp to settle down. I guess it depends on how much damage your follicles have taken and how fast you heal. I would guess a month at the minimum for the follicles to start to recover enough to produce undamaged hair. After awhile, you should no longer produce it any more. To get rid of it then you have to cut it off.

The question is, is it in such bad shape that it has to be cut immediately? If the ends split, the damage could travel up the shaft of the new hair and that could be a problem. On the other hand, it may just be rough and porous. It will be prone to damage but if you take good care of it, it can last long enough for your hair to grow out enough to feel confident to cut it. It really has to depend on your hair and situation.

I stopped relaxing in June 2009. I cut all of the relaxer out a few weeks ago and my hair was a little over 4 inches. I can feel a full 1/2 of rough, dry ends but I think there is more than that. So at a 1/2 inch of growth a month, 9 months is about 4 1/2 inches. If an inch of that is scab hair, I estimate it took 2 full months for my hair follicles to produce undamaged (less damaged?) hair. That is just a guess though. I may not see my real texture for a year or more. I am pretty sure that in a year my new growth will look quite different than it did last year. I have heard from other naturals that I should wait and see.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Naturally Nu* on 10th April 2010, 4:06 am

Very interesting, I had never heard of scab hair before..

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Re: Scab hair

Post by Music8192 on 10th April 2010, 2:52 pm

Hmm maybe I did experience "scab hair" during the first few months of transitioning. Just when I was gonna get a "touch up", all of that new growth, is that really then scab hair then? My mom did mention to me that the as my new growth comes in, the more softer it will be. But never heard of this before.. will do my share of research.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by chica rosa on 27th April 2010, 1:05 am

I actually decided to search to see if there was any entry on this topic. I Bc'd 2 weeks ago, the back of my hair is soo soft and curly, but the entire front, like from the tip of my pinna on one side to the next is dry, straight and does not retain moisture. So far Eco styler and KCCC are the only products that seem to 'blend' it in.
I have repeated my trimming 3 times sine I BC'd to see if it would help, I donot want to cut any more, so I am just going to wait and hope it grows out soon.

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Re: Scab hair

Post by KinkyNappyHappy on 27th April 2010, 8:40 am

This is an interesting topic. I had a patch of scab hair right below the crown in the center of my head. Since I've taken my braids down..that part is very soft and curly? Why? I have no idea....but maybe because of how I try to keep my hair hydrated while in braids?

Not sure, but glad that I didn't do a mini bc to get ride of that section!!

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